Magical Thinking #108

April 15, 2011

This episode was recorded when Science for the People was called Skeptically Speaking.

We ask professional magicians how the study and practice of magic can help teach critical thinking skills. We'll talk to sleight-of-hand master Jamy Ian Swiss, and Scam School creator Brian Brushwood, about the ways that magic can demonstrate - and help us overcome - our cognitive limitations. And we're joined by Michael Goudeau, to talk about his career as a performer, and his work on Penn & Teller's television projects.


  • Jamy Ian Swiss
  • Brian Brushwood
  • Michael Goudeau
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