Climate Doomsday #542

November 30, 2019

Have you heard? Climate change. We did it. And it's bad. It's going to be worse. We are already suffering the effects of it in many ways. How should we TALK about the dangers we are facing, though? Should we get people good and scared? Or give them hope? Or both? Host Bethany Brookshire talks with David Wallace-Wells and Sheril Kirschenbaum to find out.

This episode is hosted by Bethany Brookshire, science writer from Science News.

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Guest Bios

David Wallace-Wells

David Wallace-Wells is deputy editor at New York magazine and the author of the international best-seller "The Uninhabitable Earth: Life After Warming", which explores both the terrifying speed and scope of climate change and its likely transformation of politics and culture, economics and technology. David joined New York magazine as literary editor in 2011, became features director in 2016 and deputy editor in 2017. He writes regularly for the magazine about science and the near future, including his 2017 cover story on worst-case scenarios for climate change, and his recurring column on global warming and its humanitarian impacts. He is a national fellow of the New America foundation and lives in Manhattan with his wife and daughter.

Sheril Kirshenbaum

Sheril Kirshenbaum works to enhance public understanding of science and improve communication between scientists, policymakers and the public. She has authored two books and her writing appears in popular publications and scientific journals. Sheril has been a 2015 Presidential Leadership Scholar, a Marshall Memorial Fellow, a legislative Fellow in the U.S. Senate and a Next Generation Fellow through the Robert Strauss Center for International Security and Law. She speaks internationally about science communication and currently co-directs Michigan State University’s Food Literacy and Engagement Poll. She also hosts the NPR series Serving Up Science and serves as executive director of Science Debate.